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:I think it would be worth splitting the strategy out and creating a heading for each server's preferred tactics on each side. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] 20:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | :I think it would be worth splitting the strategy out and creating a heading for each server's preferred tactics on each side. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] 20:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::o_o ah, hammi raids.. Guardian used to be the best at them till the new format came out, now no one ever raids there at all. ^^ second on the moving the 'how toos' to the Player Guides.--[[User:Sleepykitty|Sleepy Kitty]] 21:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
=Old Raid Guide= | |||
Does anyone still actually use this style of hami raid? I don't believe we've used Mastermind teams on Virtue in a year or maybe even two. Villain and Hero raids are actually fairly similar now, you have a yellow aggro team (brutes mostly vill side and tanks mostly hero side) a Yellow spike team (melee), the blue assault teams and generally at least one Hami Taunter on a team with support. Spikers take down yellows while assault takes down the blues, everyone works to take down the greens, you then fight Hamidon to 75%, 50%, and push straight through 25%. There also isn't a pull out for each bloom anymore either. - [[User:Ransim|Ransim]] 20:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
:I was against the "pet streams" from the outset... Frankly, as has been brought up recently, no strategy information should be present in the main articles, since they're meant to be objective. Strategies should be moved to their own Player's Guide articles. --[[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] 21:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
::With side switching and with Incarnate powers that can round out what folks can do (mimic the Emp Auras, e.g.), the Villain side raid is becoming nearly identical to the Hero side raid, at least on Virtue it is. Thus, 'pet streaming' isn't needed as it used to be to agro the Hamidon. I agree that strategy should be moved to a Hamidon Raid/Strategy section. Information in the strategy section should be updated to reflect present realities, but no information should be simply deleted. Also, someone should check on the forums to see if any servers are still using old strategies... to them, they're not outdated. [[User:Zombie Man|Zombie Man]] 05:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
= Proposing deletion for "Noteworthy Raids" section = | |||
By now, a lot of the noteworthy raids are ancient history, and we're never going to get the dates, and more importantly, the wiki's purpose is not to archive player activity. I propose we just delete that section entirely. [[User:SpaceNut|SpaceNut]] 01:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Or, maybe - and feel free to call me crazy here - move everything from "Basic Strategy" down to Hamidon Raid/Strategy, link that from the page, and categorize it under Player Guides. (Well, everything except for "See Also", that is.) --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 04:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:: I could get behind that. [[User:SpaceNut|SpaceNut]] 15:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 15:53, 19 September 2011
Removed redirect. --GuyPerfect 17:41, 4 April 2007 (PDT)
Random?
Question from a lowbie: Does the reward screen specify what are the random recipe/random HO you'd receive? - Skarmory The PG 17:04, 4 April 2007 (PDT)
- Nope. It just prompts you with choices for "Hamidon Enhancement" or "Rare Recipe." Exactly what you get is a mystery until you get it. --GuyPerfect 17:41, 4 April 2007 (PDT)
Essence of the Earth
Can you pop an EoE before the mito bloom and thus be able to escape the awful AoE from a full set of mito pounding you? -- Kalon 02:52, 9 August 2007 (EDT)
Justice Style
I would love to make a write-up for Justice's raiding pattern. I've found Justice Heroes to be the most successful and frequent raiding to happen. It's down to a science, and that science is fairly significantly different than what's laid out here. A typical raid takes about an hour or less, and there are very few failed raids (unless they are spontaneous, but even most spontaneous raids are successful). -Aggelakis 18:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've been thinking that maybe the strategies for the raids should actually be split into a separate article and categorized under Player Guides. (And linked from this article, naturally.)
- The raid I took part in on Triumph used a slightly different strategy from the one outlined here, too. We had two yellow Mito teams, a set of Hami taunters, and everyone else attacking the blue and green Mitos. Each yellow team was composed of three tanks with EoEs and 5 attackers/buffers.
- Once the Hami taunters had established aggro, each yellow tank would take a different Mito and taunt while the rest of the yellow teams took each of the yellow Mitos out one by one. The main attack force would simultaneously begin working on the green and blue mitos.
- As the yellow mitos fell, the tanks would join the yellow attack team and move to the next mito. When all the yellows were down, the yellow mito team joined the main attack team in the middle to help clear the rest of the mitos. When the mitos were clear, we turned on Hami. Repeat for each bloom.
- And the tactics red-side are entirely different. MMs spamming pets to hold Hami aggro rather than having Brutes use Taunt, for instance.
- I think it would be worth splitting the strategy out and creating a heading for each server's preferred tactics on each side. --Eabrace 20:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- o_o ah, hammi raids.. Guardian used to be the best at them till the new format came out, now no one ever raids there at all. ^^ second on the moving the 'how toos' to the Player Guides.--Sleepy Kitty 21:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Old Raid Guide
Does anyone still actually use this style of hami raid? I don't believe we've used Mastermind teams on Virtue in a year or maybe even two. Villain and Hero raids are actually fairly similar now, you have a yellow aggro team (brutes mostly vill side and tanks mostly hero side) a Yellow spike team (melee), the blue assault teams and generally at least one Hami Taunter on a team with support. Spikers take down yellows while assault takes down the blues, everyone works to take down the greens, you then fight Hamidon to 75%, 50%, and push straight through 25%. There also isn't a pull out for each bloom anymore either. - Ransim 20:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- I was against the "pet streams" from the outset... Frankly, as has been brought up recently, no strategy information should be present in the main articles, since they're meant to be objective. Strategies should be moved to their own Player's Guide articles. --GuyPerfect 21:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- With side switching and with Incarnate powers that can round out what folks can do (mimic the Emp Auras, e.g.), the Villain side raid is becoming nearly identical to the Hero side raid, at least on Virtue it is. Thus, 'pet streaming' isn't needed as it used to be to agro the Hamidon. I agree that strategy should be moved to a Hamidon Raid/Strategy section. Information in the strategy section should be updated to reflect present realities, but no information should be simply deleted. Also, someone should check on the forums to see if any servers are still using old strategies... to them, they're not outdated. Zombie Man 05:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Proposing deletion for "Noteworthy Raids" section
By now, a lot of the noteworthy raids are ancient history, and we're never going to get the dates, and more importantly, the wiki's purpose is not to archive player activity. I propose we just delete that section entirely. SpaceNut 01:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- Or, maybe - and feel free to call me crazy here - move everything from "Basic Strategy" down to Hamidon Raid/Strategy, link that from the page, and categorize it under Player Guides. (Well, everything except for "See Also", that is.) --Eabrace 04:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- I could get behind that. SpaceNut 15:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)