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==Table==
I did a lot of cleanup on the table tonight. It was a little messy and confusing as it was and had numerous missing cells and errors. I also color-coded it much like the tables on [[Emotes]] are done, but I am not so good with Wiki markup and don't know how to define special tables like it's done there ("emote header", etc), so I did it cell-by-cell with basic wiki-supported HTML. The colors don't quite match the Emotes tables, I'm not sure if that's important or not. Anyway, if someone wants to re-redo it to be more consistent, by all means. I do think it's significantly more readable as-is than it was before, though. [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 09:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:Is it possible to choose two colours which aren't so bright?  My eyes, they burn!  XD  [[User:Sera404|Sera404]] 11:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
::The soft pastel colors used in other such areas are not [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors Named HTML Colors], and since the tables in most every other area of the wiki are templates pulled from somewhere that I do not know how to find, I can't see how they're done to replicate the method. If you want to change the color entries to a different HTML color, feel free, though it's pretty much either super bright or really dark, they're all bold picks.
::I'm not sure if Wiki markup will allow Hex code colors or not. Otherwise, if you can tell me how to find the templates for the table in [[Emotes]] or some other, similarly formatted part of the wiki, I will try to duplicate the behavior used there and make a Powers table. [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 05:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:::When you know the name of a template you're looking for, you can find it by adding "Template:" to the beginning of it.  For example, to go to the Emote template, you would go to [[Template: Emote]].  You can also find templates quickly by visiting a page you know uses a particular template, clicking "edit" (or "view source" if you aren't logged in), and scrolling to the bottom of the page.  There you will find a list of all the templates that are used by the page (either directly or by reference from one of the templates called on the page.)  You can view any of those templates simply by clicking on the link in the template name.
:::Regarding color codes, wiki markup does allow use of hex codes. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 06:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Is there anything you don't know Eabrace? I'm going to try to decipher and reproduce a table for this page using that info. Thanks! [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 02:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Update: Finished! Palette table should be much easier to use now, and also easier on the eyes. The colors and basis for the template were pulled from [[Template:Emote]] so it should be consistent-looking too. Also re-added the by-archetype information in table form using my new found understanding for how wiki tables work. [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 06:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Almost everything I know about wiki code I've learned by copying from other people.  :)  The table's looking pretty good.  Definitely a more subtle color palette. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 14:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Much easier on the eyes. Thanks [[User:Catwhoorg|Catwhoorg]] 11:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
==Categories==
Re: Aggelakis edit: Looking the categories over, I'm thinking Gameplay and/or Costumes may be the most appropriate to add, since that's where Weapon Customization is? I actually put Definitions on it because that's what Powerset Proliferation has and it seemed logical by that example. [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 21:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
==Issue 16==
Since the announcement of Issue 16 has confirmed Power Customization, I cleaned up the overview of this article. I will be adding another section with more details shortly. THe Developer Quotes section could probably stand for some more recent material too, but I won't be touching that, other than to mark the existing quotes as outdated information. [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 12:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Update: Actually going to move all the old quotes and the link to the (now outdated) Power Customization FAQ to a new Historical Information section.
:Update 2: Customizable Powers section completed. Checked over it myself a few times, please let me know of and/or correct any errors you find. [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 14:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone else feel that sets that have weapon customization should be added into the list and noted as such similar to MA and SS? [[User:Bluebeetle27|Bluebeetle27]] 19:38, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Considering that Weapon Customization works a bit differently, since it's changing the shape rather than the color of the FX or the animation, and how extensive the Weapon Customization article we already have is with all the powersets and pictures included, I'm not sure that trying to merge them would be wise just because of how much information we're talking about trying to organize clearly on one page. I think this article will grow quite a bit already since there will probably be cause for a series of galleries like the Weapon Customization's once we have access to take pictures of it. I do definitely agree that these articles should be associated in some meaningful manner though. [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 21:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::Customization category, along with a "See Also" section?  [[User:Sera404|Sera404]] 21:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, I like that idea! It's probably about time we had a Customization category anyway, considering the game we're talking about. XD [[User:Draeth Darkstar|Draeth Darkstar]] 21:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey...for those of us that are "color challenged"  is there someone out there that can see the full color spectrum who is able to take the color palates from http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/File:Colorchartall0sz.jpg and match them up to the bright and the dark color palate for the power customization screen?  I'm not completely color blind, and I can tell that there is an obvious difference between the costume color chart, and the bright/dark color chart.
It would help if that person could assign the same grid number/coordinate that's on the costume chart for each color to the charts for the dark/bright power colors.  That way those of us that are colortarded can look and say "oh I have color N5 selected as my pants color, so if my imps are also color N5 they will match".  I realize that instead of having a MSExcel like grid whomever does this will have to actually plug the letter and the number into each color circle, but I think since the palates are so different from the main, it would make the most sense.  The other option would to just use the same EXACT NAMES as are used on the main palate...though this would make it a little more difficult for the color challenged.  (But still better than nothing!) Does this make sense?  -detfrost1
{{unsigned|Detfrost1|21:28, January 31, 2010}}
:Before we get too far, there are a couple of matters which complicate this issue:
:* I'm not entirely certain that there's actually a 1:1 mapping between of all the colors in each customization palette and the color palette for costumes
:* There are multiple customization palettes (i.e. bright, dark, Earth Control color tintable, Earth Control lava/crystal, Ice Armor color tintable, etc.) and to really do this right, we'd have to hit all of them.
:Now, I'm not saying that this is something that won't ever happen, but it is something that's going to take quite a bit of time once it's started to get it completely finished. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 21:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
I think doing the dark/bright first would help the most people since I think those are the most available color palates yes? {{unsigned|Detfrost1|22:24, January 31, 2010}}
:I'm starting to investigate the different palettes used and which power sets are using which palettes.  In the process, I'm grabbing the hex codes for each color in the palettes.  You can see what I have [[User:Eabrace/Customization Colors‎|here]].  Please be patient as I know I'm going to be very busy with a whole lot of non-wiki/non-CoH/higher priority tasks starting this week and won't have as much free time as I usually do to spend on this.  --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 00:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:: I'm currently working on the Bright and Dark Palettes and should have a completed Bright palette posted this week and I'll be working on the Dark Palette next. It really is a time consuming process but it's a task I want to take off my to-do list.  --[[User:Altoholic Monkey|Altoholic Monkey]] 06:34, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Much appreciated, Monkey.  I've captured the hex codes for all of the colors in each of the palettes and I'm now working on creating the color sample images for each.  I'd say I have somewhere around just over half of them ready for upload. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 06:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
==Article Creation==
Great Idea [[User:Catwhoorg|Catwhoorg]] 16:30, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
Great Idea [[User:Catwhoorg|Catwhoorg]] 16:30, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
:Since the release of [[Issue 11]], we've seen some limited ability to customize powers, mostly benefiting [[Scrapper]]s ([[Stalker]]s) and [[Tanker]]s ([[Brute]]s) with regards to the appearence of the weapon that they carry and the color of the weapon.  I have to wonder if this is a precursor to things to come.  Personally, I'd like to see pet customization for [[Mastermind]]s as well. [[User:Blue Orchid|Blue Orchid]] 18:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 06:59, 9 February 2010

Table

I did a lot of cleanup on the table tonight. It was a little messy and confusing as it was and had numerous missing cells and errors. I also color-coded it much like the tables on Emotes are done, but I am not so good with Wiki markup and don't know how to define special tables like it's done there ("emote header", etc), so I did it cell-by-cell with basic wiki-supported HTML. The colors don't quite match the Emotes tables, I'm not sure if that's important or not. Anyway, if someone wants to re-redo it to be more consistent, by all means. I do think it's significantly more readable as-is than it was before, though. Draeth Darkstar 09:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to choose two colours which aren't so bright? My eyes, they burn! XD Sera404 11:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
The soft pastel colors used in other such areas are not Named HTML Colors, and since the tables in most every other area of the wiki are templates pulled from somewhere that I do not know how to find, I can't see how they're done to replicate the method. If you want to change the color entries to a different HTML color, feel free, though it's pretty much either super bright or really dark, they're all bold picks.
I'm not sure if Wiki markup will allow Hex code colors or not. Otherwise, if you can tell me how to find the templates for the table in Emotes or some other, similarly formatted part of the wiki, I will try to duplicate the behavior used there and make a Powers table. Draeth Darkstar 05:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
When you know the name of a template you're looking for, you can find it by adding "Template:" to the beginning of it. For example, to go to the Emote template, you would go to Template: Emote. You can also find templates quickly by visiting a page you know uses a particular template, clicking "edit" (or "view source" if you aren't logged in), and scrolling to the bottom of the page. There you will find a list of all the templates that are used by the page (either directly or by reference from one of the templates called on the page.) You can view any of those templates simply by clicking on the link in the template name.
Regarding color codes, wiki markup does allow use of hex codes. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 06:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there anything you don't know Eabrace? I'm going to try to decipher and reproduce a table for this page using that info. Thanks! Draeth Darkstar 02:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Update: Finished! Palette table should be much easier to use now, and also easier on the eyes. The colors and basis for the template were pulled from Template:Emote so it should be consistent-looking too. Also re-added the by-archetype information in table form using my new found understanding for how wiki tables work. Draeth Darkstar 06:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Almost everything I know about wiki code I've learned by copying from other people.  :) The table's looking pretty good. Definitely a more subtle color palette. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 14:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Much easier on the eyes. Thanks Catwhoorg 11:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Categories

Re: Aggelakis edit: Looking the categories over, I'm thinking Gameplay and/or Costumes may be the most appropriate to add, since that's where Weapon Customization is? I actually put Definitions on it because that's what Powerset Proliferation has and it seemed logical by that example. Draeth Darkstar 21:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Issue 16

Since the announcement of Issue 16 has confirmed Power Customization, I cleaned up the overview of this article. I will be adding another section with more details shortly. THe Developer Quotes section could probably stand for some more recent material too, but I won't be touching that, other than to mark the existing quotes as outdated information. Draeth Darkstar 12:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Update: Actually going to move all the old quotes and the link to the (now outdated) Power Customization FAQ to a new Historical Information section.
Update 2: Customizable Powers section completed. Checked over it myself a few times, please let me know of and/or correct any errors you find. Draeth Darkstar 14:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone else feel that sets that have weapon customization should be added into the list and noted as such similar to MA and SS? Bluebeetle27 19:38, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Considering that Weapon Customization works a bit differently, since it's changing the shape rather than the color of the FX or the animation, and how extensive the Weapon Customization article we already have is with all the powersets and pictures included, I'm not sure that trying to merge them would be wise just because of how much information we're talking about trying to organize clearly on one page. I think this article will grow quite a bit already since there will probably be cause for a series of galleries like the Weapon Customization's once we have access to take pictures of it. I do definitely agree that these articles should be associated in some meaningful manner though. Draeth Darkstar 21:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Customization category, along with a "See Also" section? Sera404 21:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I like that idea! It's probably about time we had a Customization category anyway, considering the game we're talking about. XD Draeth Darkstar 21:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


Hey...for those of us that are "color challenged" is there someone out there that can see the full color spectrum who is able to take the color palates from http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/File:Colorchartall0sz.jpg and match them up to the bright and the dark color palate for the power customization screen? I'm not completely color blind, and I can tell that there is an obvious difference between the costume color chart, and the bright/dark color chart.

It would help if that person could assign the same grid number/coordinate that's on the costume chart for each color to the charts for the dark/bright power colors. That way those of us that are colortarded can look and say "oh I have color N5 selected as my pants color, so if my imps are also color N5 they will match". I realize that instead of having a MSExcel like grid whomever does this will have to actually plug the letter and the number into each color circle, but I think since the palates are so different from the main, it would make the most sense. The other option would to just use the same EXACT NAMES as are used on the main palate...though this would make it a little more difficult for the color challenged. (But still better than nothing!) Does this make sense? -detfrost1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Detfrost1 (talkcontribs) 21:28, January 31, 2010

Before we get too far, there are a couple of matters which complicate this issue:
  • I'm not entirely certain that there's actually a 1:1 mapping between of all the colors in each customization palette and the color palette for costumes
  • There are multiple customization palettes (i.e. bright, dark, Earth Control color tintable, Earth Control lava/crystal, Ice Armor color tintable, etc.) and to really do this right, we'd have to hit all of them.
Now, I'm not saying that this is something that won't ever happen, but it is something that's going to take quite a bit of time once it's started to get it completely finished. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 21:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I think doing the dark/bright first would help the most people since I think those are the most available color palates yes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Detfrost1 (talkcontribs) 22:24, January 31, 2010

I'm starting to investigate the different palettes used and which power sets are using which palettes. In the process, I'm grabbing the hex codes for each color in the palettes. You can see what I have here. Please be patient as I know I'm going to be very busy with a whole lot of non-wiki/non-CoH/higher priority tasks starting this week and won't have as much free time as I usually do to spend on this. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 00:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm currently working on the Bright and Dark Palettes and should have a completed Bright palette posted this week and I'll be working on the Dark Palette next. It really is a time consuming process but it's a task I want to take off my to-do list. --Altoholic Monkey 06:34, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Much appreciated, Monkey. I've captured the hex codes for all of the colors in each of the palettes and I'm now working on creating the color sample images for each. I'd say I have somewhere around just over half of them ready for upload. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 06:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Article Creation

Great Idea Catwhoorg 16:30, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Since the release of Issue 11, we've seen some limited ability to customize powers, mostly benefiting Scrappers (Stalkers) and Tankers (Brutes) with regards to the appearence of the weapon that they carry and the color of the weapon. I have to wonder if this is a precursor to things to come. Personally, I'd like to see pet customization for Masterminds as well. Blue Orchid 18:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)