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I checked the existing badges and couldn't find one that had been converted for the veteran level badges, so I took a stab at creating a template using the [[Overleveled Badge]] page. Feel free to alter that as necessary.
I checked the existing badges and couldn't find one that had been converted for the veteran level badges, so I took a stab at creating a template using the [[Overleveled Badge]] page. Feel free to alter that as necessary.


The Overleveled badge is a bit of a special case in that it was the old Trustworthy badge, renamed. Most of the veteran level badges were repurposed from the old paragon rewards badges (which themselves had been repurposed from the veteran rewards badges in [[Issue 21]]). The next badge in line, [[Faithful Badge]] is an example. Note at the top of that badge page is a note that states "This article is about the Paragon Rewards Program badge. For the Veteran Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (Vet)." It might be prudent for any paragon rewards badges that were repurposed to veteran level badges without renaming to create a historic copy of that paragon rewards badge. Then at the top of the Faithful veteran level badge, include a similar statement along the lines of:
The Overleveled badge is a bit of a special case in that it was the old Trustworthy badge, renamed. Most of the veteran level badges were repurposed from the old paragon rewards badges (which themselves had been repurposed from the veteran rewards badges in [[Issue 21]]) without renaming, and the History section will be altered slightly to reflect that. <s>The next badge in line, [[Faithful Badge]] is an example. Note at the top of that badge page is a note that states "This article is about the Paragon Rewards Program badge. For the Veteran Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (Vet)." It might be prudent for any paragon rewards badges that were repurposed to veteran level badges without renaming to create a historic copy of that paragon rewards badge. Then at the top of the Faithful veteran level badge, include a similar statement along the lines of:</s>


"This article is about the Veteran Level badge. For the Paragon Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (PR) and for the Veteran Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (Vet)."
<s>"This article is about the Veteran Level badge. For the Paragon Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (PR) and for the Veteran Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (Vet)."</s>


The (PR) is an abbreviation for Paragon Rewards, and is just a suggestion for a way of differentiating the historic badge.
<s>The (PR) is an abbreviation for Paragon Rewards, and is just a suggestion for a way of differentiating the historic badge.</s>


The icons for the [[Veteran Reward Badges]] should be fine to re-use for the Veteran Level badges up to level 87. Icons for badges 90, 93, 96, and 99 have been uploaded as 'Vet_level_9x.png' where x is 0, 3, 6, or 9 as appropriate.
The icons for the [[Veteran Reward Badges]] should be fine to re-use for the Veteran Level badges up to level 87. Icons for badges 90, 93, 96, and 99 have been uploaded as 'Vet_level_9x.png' where x is 0, 3, 6, or 9 as appropriate.
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My hope is that, once several folks have had a chance to review/alter the template as necessary, we can finalize it then start creating the pages for the rest of the veteran badges. --[[User:AboveTheChemist|AboveTheChemist]] ([[User talk:AboveTheChemist|talk]]) 18:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
My hope is that, once several folks have had a chance to review/alter the template as necessary, we can finalize it then start creating the pages for the rest of the veteran badges. --[[User:AboveTheChemist|AboveTheChemist]] ([[User talk:AboveTheChemist|talk]]) 18:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
:I honestly don't feel the need to keep around references to the Paragon Rewards Program that Homecoming has never had. I suggest if such notes are to be added, they should be added at the bottom of the page, not the top. [[User:Thunderforce|Thunderforce]] ([[User talk:Thunderforce|talk]]) 23:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
:I honestly don't feel the need to keep around references to the Paragon Rewards Program that Homecoming has never had. I suggest if such notes are to be added, they should be added at the bottom of the page, not the top. [[User:Thunderforce|Thunderforce]] ([[User talk:Thunderforce|talk]]) 23:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
:I'm afraid I've slightly jumped the gun by creating [[https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Battle_Hardened_Badge_(Rewards_Program)]]. I think this is a better parenthetical note than (PR) because eg in the BadgeLink template it will be more clear. [[User:Thunderforce|Thunderforce]] ([[User talk:Thunderforce|talk]]) 18:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
:I'm afraid I've slightly jumped the gun by creating [[Battle Hardened Badge (Rewards Program)]]. I think this is a better parenthetical note than (PR) because eg in the BadgeLink template it will be more clear. [[User:Thunderforce|Thunderforce]] ([[User talk:Thunderforce|talk]]) 18:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
:All that sounds good. I think adding a quick note in the History section would work fine. And the (PR) was just something I threw out there, so if you have something that works better, go for it. --[[User:AboveTheChemist|AboveTheChemist]] ([[User talk:AboveTheChemist|talk]]) 19:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 
 
I have gone through all the Paragon Rewards Program and AE badges that were repurposed to veteran level badges in Issue 25 and moved them to their 'archive' designations, either (Rewards Program) or (AE), respectively. This should free up those pages (the majority of which now exist as redirect pages to those 'archive' badges) for the creation of the veteran level badges using the [[Overleveled Badge]] template. If anyone else has any suggestions/comments for the template, feel free to include them. I plan to wait a few days for any other comments, then this weekend I'll start building the veteran level badges using that template. --[[User:AboveTheChemist|AboveTheChemist]] ([[User talk:AboveTheChemist|talk]]) 01:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:I'm happy with it now. [[User:Thunderforce|Thunderforce]] ([[User talk:Thunderforce|talk]]) 15:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 
 
Veteran level badges have all been created. --[[User:AboveTheChemist|AboveTheChemist]] ([[User talk:AboveTheChemist|talk]]) 18:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:Excellent. I'm afraid I've been busy the last few days but I hope I'll get back to badges next week. [[User:Thunderforce|Thunderforce]] ([[User talk:Thunderforce|talk]]) 14:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 
I'm going to watch on my Farming Toon, but some of the levels where Emp. Merits taper off don't match up in live to the Issue 25 patch notes.  I'll edit as I notice differences.  [[User:SaphirantCross|SaphirantCross]] ([[User talk:SaphirantCross|talk]]) 21:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:13, 7 May 2022

Badge template

I checked the existing badges and couldn't find one that had been converted for the veteran level badges, so I took a stab at creating a template using the Overleveled Badge page. Feel free to alter that as necessary.

The Overleveled badge is a bit of a special case in that it was the old Trustworthy badge, renamed. Most of the veteran level badges were repurposed from the old paragon rewards badges (which themselves had been repurposed from the veteran rewards badges in Issue 21) without renaming, and the History section will be altered slightly to reflect that. The next badge in line, Faithful Badge is an example. Note at the top of that badge page is a note that states "This article is about the Paragon Rewards Program badge. For the Veteran Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (Vet)." It might be prudent for any paragon rewards badges that were repurposed to veteran level badges without renaming to create a historic copy of that paragon rewards badge. Then at the top of the Faithful veteran level badge, include a similar statement along the lines of:

"This article is about the Veteran Level badge. For the Paragon Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (PR) and for the Veteran Rewards Program badge, see Faithful Badge (Vet)."

The (PR) is an abbreviation for Paragon Rewards, and is just a suggestion for a way of differentiating the historic badge.

The icons for the Veteran Reward Badges should be fine to re-use for the Veteran Level badges up to level 87. Icons for badges 90, 93, 96, and 99 have been uploaded as 'Vet_level_9x.png' where x is 0, 3, 6, or 9 as appropriate.

My hope is that, once several folks have had a chance to review/alter the template as necessary, we can finalize it then start creating the pages for the rest of the veteran badges. --AboveTheChemist (talk) 18:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I honestly don't feel the need to keep around references to the Paragon Rewards Program that Homecoming has never had. I suggest if such notes are to be added, they should be added at the bottom of the page, not the top. Thunderforce (talk) 23:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I've slightly jumped the gun by creating Battle Hardened Badge (Rewards Program). I think this is a better parenthetical note than (PR) because eg in the BadgeLink template it will be more clear. Thunderforce (talk) 18:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
All that sounds good. I think adding a quick note in the History section would work fine. And the (PR) was just something I threw out there, so if you have something that works better, go for it. --AboveTheChemist (talk) 19:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


I have gone through all the Paragon Rewards Program and AE badges that were repurposed to veteran level badges in Issue 25 and moved them to their 'archive' designations, either (Rewards Program) or (AE), respectively. This should free up those pages (the majority of which now exist as redirect pages to those 'archive' badges) for the creation of the veteran level badges using the Overleveled Badge template. If anyone else has any suggestions/comments for the template, feel free to include them. I plan to wait a few days for any other comments, then this weekend I'll start building the veteran level badges using that template. --AboveTheChemist (talk) 01:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm happy with it now. Thunderforce (talk) 15:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


Veteran level badges have all been created. --AboveTheChemist (talk) 18:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Excellent. I'm afraid I've been busy the last few days but I hope I'll get back to badges next week. Thunderforce (talk) 14:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to watch on my Farming Toon, but some of the levels where Emp. Merits taper off don't match up in live to the Issue 25 patch notes. I'll edit as I notice differences. SaphirantCross (talk) 21:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)