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This enhancement improves the accuracy and damage of your power by the following amounts: | This enhancement improves the accuracy and damage of your power by the following amounts: | ||
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>< ack! Accuracy/Damage is to small, and yes, I have the window maximized. The salvage tables other than acc/dam now wrap fine. though the % tables still run off the screen by a cell (rather, #53 is partially off). as for the book, yes, the devs probably did do it just to taunt us >.> --[[User:Sleepykitty|Sleepy Kitty]] 21:04, 22 April 2007 (PDT) | >< ack! Accuracy/Damage is to small, and yes, I have the window maximized. The salvage tables other than acc/dam now wrap fine. though the % tables still run off the screen by a cell (rather, #53 is partially off). as for the book, yes, the devs probably did do it just to taunt us >.> --[[User:Sleepykitty|Sleepy Kitty]] 21:04, 22 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
: ''the % tables still run off the screen by a cell'' -- yeah, I didn't fix that; the solution is 4 rows, and setting them to float like the recipe tables do so widescreen folks don't have huge gobs of white space. --[[User:Lin Chiao Feng|Lin Chiao Feng]] 06:58, 23 April 2007 (PDT) | |||
Its pretty monstrous in size, but a lot of good hard data there. One thing to think about would be combining the efefcts and costs into a single bigger table. Level - Craft Cost - Salavge - Effect1 - Efefct 2. That may get a little too cluncky looking with the few Quad enhacers around. [[User:Catwhoorg|Catwhoorg]] 04:46, 23 April 2007 (PDT) | Its pretty monstrous in size, but a lot of good hard data there. One thing to think about would be combining the efefcts and costs into a single bigger table. Level - Craft Cost - Salavge - Effect1 - Efefct 2. That may get a little too cluncky looking with the few Quad enhacers around. [[User:Catwhoorg|Catwhoorg]] 04:46, 23 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
: That would put things solidly in ''too much information'' territory. More importantly, it's not how the information is ''used.'' When someone comes to this page, they're probably asking, "What good is Air Burst?" So the first section answers that by detailing effects (and showing that improvement tapers off rapidly after level 26, and levels 51-53 are the same as 50), and the second section shows set bonuses. At this point, if they haven't decided to go look at something else, they're saying, "Cool, how do I make one?" On to Recipes. Once they've got the parts and made the things, if they come back, they'll be looking at effects again. So, since there's no realistic point in time that the player wants to see effect vs. price, the tables are separate. --[[User:Lin Chiao Feng|Lin Chiao Feng]] 06:58, 23 April 2007 (PDT) | |||
Table size reverted to normal. If someone wants smaller, they can set it in their browser. Any other comments before I push this to main? Yes, I'm going to break effects into 4 tables each to narrow them. --[[User:Lin Chiao Feng|Lin Chiao Feng]] 06:58, 23 April 2007 (PDT) | |||
Revision as of 13:58, 23 April 2007
This is a prototype page overhaul. It will replace the main page when it's ready.
Protoype
Air Burst is a Targeted AoE Damage enhancement set in the Invention System. It is available in the 10-53 level range.
Enhancement Effects
Accuracy/Damage
This enhancement improves the accuracy and damage of your power by the following amounts:
| Level | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Accuracy | +7.3% | +8.3% | +9.4% | +10.4% | +11.2% | +12.0% | +12.8% | +13.6% | +14.4% | +15.2% | +16.0% | +16.8% | +17.6% | +18.4% | +19.2% |
| Damage | +7.3% | +8.3% | +9.4% | +10.4% | +11.2% | +12.0% | +12.8% | +13.6% | +14.4% | +15.2% | +16.0% | +16.8% | +17.6% | +18.4% | +19.2% |
| Level | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Accuracy | +20.0% | +20.8% | +21.1% | +21.3% | +21.5% | +21.8% | +22.0% | +22.3% | +22.4% | +22.7% | +22.9% | +23.2% | +23.4% | +23.6% |
| Damage | +20.0% | +20.8% | +21.1% | +21.3% | +21.5% | +21.8% | +22.0% | +22.3% | +22.4% | +22.7% | +22.9% | +23.2% | +23.4% | +23.6% |
| Level | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Accuracy | +23.9% | +24.1% | +24.4% | +24.6% | +24.8% | +25.1% | +25.3% | +25.6% | +25.8% | +26.0% | +26.2% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% |
| Damage | +23.9% | +24.1% | +24.4% | +24.6% | +24.8% | +25.1% | +25.3% | +25.6% | +25.8% | +26.0% | +26.2% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% |
Damage/Endurance
This enhancement improves the damage and endurance cost of your power by the following amounts:
| Level | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +7.3% | +8.3% | +9.4% | +10.4% | +11.2% | +12.0% | +12.8% | +13.6% | +14.4% | +15.2% | +16.0% | +16.8% | +17.6% | +18.4% | +19.2% |
| Endurance | +7.3% | +8.3% | +9.4% | +10.4% | +11.2% | +12.0% | +12.8% | +13.6% | +14.4% | +15.2% | +16.0% | +16.8% | +17.6% | +18.4% | +19.2% |
| Level | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +20.0% | +20.8% | +21.1% | +21.3% | +21.5% | +21.8% | +22.0% | +22.3% | +22.4% | +22.7% | +22.9% | +23.2% | +23.4% | +23.6% |
| Endurance | +20.0% | +20.8% | +21.1% | +21.3% | +21.5% | +21.8% | +22.0% | +22.3% | +22.4% | +22.7% | +22.9% | +23.2% | +23.4% | +23.6% |
| Level | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +23.9% | +24.1% | +24.4% | +24.6% | +24.8% | +25.1% | +25.3% | +25.6% | +25.8% | +26.0% | +26.2% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% |
| Endurance | +23.9% | +24.1% | +24.4% | +24.6% | +24.8% | +25.1% | +25.3% | +25.6% | +25.8% | +26.0% | +26.2% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% |
Damage/Recharge
This enhancement improves the damage and recharge time of your power by the following amounts:
| Level | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +7.3% | +8.3% | +9.4% | +10.4% | +11.2% | +12.0% | +12.8% | +13.6% | +14.4% | +15.2% | +16.0% | +16.8% | +17.6% | +18.4% | +19.2% |
| Recharge | +7.3% | +8.3% | +9.4% | +10.4% | +11.2% | +12.0% | +12.8% | +13.6% | +14.4% | +15.2% | +16.0% | +16.8% | +17.6% | +18.4% | +19.2% |
| Level | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +20.0% | +20.8% | +21.1% | +21.3% | +21.5% | +21.8% | +22.0% | +22.3% | +22.4% | +22.7% | +22.9% | +23.2% | +23.4% | +23.6% |
| Recharge | +20.0% | +20.8% | +21.1% | +21.3% | +21.5% | +21.8% | +22.0% | +22.3% | +22.4% | +22.7% | +22.9% | +23.2% | +23.4% | +23.6% |
| Level | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +23.9% | +24.1% | +24.4% | +24.6% | +24.8% | +25.1% | +25.3% | +25.6% | +25.8% | +26.0% | +26.2% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% |
| Recharge | +23.9% | +24.1% | +24.4% | +24.6% | +24.8% | +25.1% | +25.3% | +25.6% | +25.8% | +26.0% | +26.2% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% |
Damage/Range
This enhancement improves the damage and range of your power by the following amounts:
| Level | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +7.3% | +8.3% | +9.4% | +10.4% | +11.2% | +12.0% | +12.8% | +13.6% | +14.4% | +15.2% | +16.0% | +16.8% | +17.6% | +18.4% | +19.2% |
| Range | +4.4% | +5.0% | +5.6% | +6.3% | +6.8% | +7.2% | +7.7% | +8.2% | +8.6% | +9.1% | +9.6% | +10.1% | +10.6% | +11.1% | +11.6% |
| Level | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +20.0% | +20.8% | +21.1% | +21.3% | +21.5% | +21.8% | +22.0% | +22.3% | +22.4% | +22.7% | +22.9% | +23.2% | +23.4% | +23.6% |
| Range | +12.0% | +12.5% | +12.6% | +12.8% | +12.9% | +13.1% | +13.2% | +13.4% | +13.5% | +13.6% | +13.8% | +13.9% | +14.1% | +14.2% |
| Level | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Damage | +23.9% | +24.1% | +24.4% | +24.6% | +24.8% | +25.1% | +25.3% | +25.6% | +25.8% | +26.0% | +26.2% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% | +26.5% |
| Range | +14.4% | +14.5% | +14.6% | +14.8% | +14.9% | +15.1% | +15.2% | +15.3% | +15.5% | +15.6% | +15.8% | +15.9% | +15.9% | +15.9% | +15.9% |
Set Bonuses
- Two enhancements in the same power: Improves all of your powers with Knockback by 2.0%
- Three enhancements in the same power: Increases maximum health by 0.75%
- Four enhancements in the same power: Increases Smashing and Lethal resistance by 0.63%
Recipes
These recipes cannot be bought from stores. They must be obtained by defeating enemies, or bought from other players at Wentworth's or on the Black Market.
These recipes may be sold to a store for 100 influence or infamy per recipe level. This is usually much, much less than you could sell it at Wentworth's or on the Black Market.
The following tables show the requirements for crafting the enhancements in this set:
Accuracy/Damage
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 10 | 3,600 |  1 Spiritual Essence  1 Computer Virus  1 Scope
|
| 11 | 4,380 | |
| 12 | 5,160 | |
| 13 | 5,940 | |
| 14 | 6,720 | |
| 15 | 7,500 | |
| 16 | 12,900 | |
| 17 | 18,300 | |
| 18 | 23,700 | |
| 19 | 29,100 | |
| 20 | 34,500 | |
| 21 | 35,080 | |
| 22 | 35,660 | |
| 23 | 36,240 | |
| 24 | 36,820 | |
| 25 | 74,800 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 26 | 38,660 |  1 Ancient Bone  1 Scientific Theory  1 Steel
|
| 27 | 39,920 | |
| 28 | 41,180 | |
| 29 | 42,440 | |
| 30 | 43,700 | |
| 31 | 48,200 | |
| 32 | 52,700 | |
| 33 | 57,200 | |
| 34 | 61,700 | |
| 35 | 66,200 | |
| 36 | 73,920 | |
| 37 | 81,640 | |
| 38 | 89,360 | |
| 39 | 97,080 | |
| 40 | 209,600 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 41 | 121,260 |  1 Regenerating Flesh  1 Ceramic Armor Plate  1 Chaos Theorem
|
| 42 | 137,720 | |
| 43 | 154,180 | |
| 44 | 170,640 | |
| 45 | 187,100 | |
| 46 | 198,720 | |
| 47 | 210,340 | |
| 48 | 221,960 | |
| 49 | 233,580 | |
| 50 | 490,400 | |
| 51 | 513,640 | |
| 52 | 536,880 | |
| 53 | 560,120 | |
Damage/Endurance
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 10 | 3,600 |  1 Human Blood Sample  1 Runebound Armor  1 Unearthed Relic
|
| 11 | 4,380 | |
| 12 | 5,160 | |
| 13 | 5,940 | |
| 14 | 6,720 | |
| 15 | 7,500 | |
| 16 | 12,900 | |
| 17 | 18,300 | |
| 18 | 23,700 | |
| 19 | 29,100 | |
| 20 | 34,500 | |
| 21 | 35,080 | |
| 22 | 35,660 | |
| 23 | 36,240 | |
| 24 | 36,820 | |
| 25 | 74,800 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 26 | 38,660 |  1 Improvised Cybernetic  1 Spell Ink  1 Ensorcelled Weapon
|
| 27 | 39,920 | |
| 28 | 41,180 | |
| 29 | 42,440 | |
| 30 | 43,700 | |
| 31 | 48,200 | |
| 32 | 52,700 | |
| 33 | 57,200 | |
| 34 | 61,700 | |
| 35 | 66,200 | |
| 36 | 73,920 | |
| 37 | 81,640 | |
| 38 | 89,360 | |
| 39 | 97,080 | |
| 40 | 209,600 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 41 | 121,260 |  1 Kinetic Weapon  1 Spirit Thorn  1 Unquenchable Flame
|
| 42 | 137,720 | |
| 43 | 154,180 | |
| 44 | 170,640 | |
| 45 | 187,100 | |
| 46 | 198,720 | |
| 47 | 210,340 | |
| 48 | 221,960 | |
| 49 | 233,580 | |
| 50 | 490,400 | |
| 51 | 513,640 | |
| 52 | 536,880 | |
| 53 | 560,120 | |
Damage/Range
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 10 | 3,600 |  1 Boresight 1 Spiritual Essence  1 Volume of the Obsidian Librum  1 Lament Box
|
| 11 | 4,380 | |
| 12 | 5,160 | |
| 13 | 5,940 | |
| 14 | 6,720 | |
| 15 | 7,500 | |
| 16 | 12,900 | |
| 17 | 18,300 | |
| 18 | 23,700 | |
| 19 | 29,100 | |
| 20 | 34,500 | |
| 21 | 35,080 | |
| 22 | 35,660 | |
| 23 | 36,240 | |
| 24 | 36,820 | |
| 25 | 74,800 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 26 | 38,660 |  1 Iron 1 Ancient Bone  1 Alchemical Gold 1 Deific Weapon
|
| 27 | 39,920 | |
| 28 | 41,180 | |
| 29 | 42,440 | |
| 30 | 43,700 | |
| 31 | 48,200 | |
| 32 | 52,700 | |
| 33 | 57,200 | |
| 34 | 61,700 | |
| 35 | 66,200 | |
| 36 | 73,920 | |
| 37 | 81,640 | |
| 38 | 89,360 | |
| 39 | 97,080 | |
| 40 | 209,600 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 41 | 121,260 | 1 Mathematic Proof 1 Regenerating Flesh  1 Psionic Threat Report  1 Pangean Soil
|
| 42 | 137,720 | |
| 43 | 154,180 | |
| 44 | 170,640 | |
| 45 | 187,100 | |
| 46 | 198,720 | |
| 47 | 210,340 | |
| 48 | 221,960 | |
| 49 | 233,580 | |
| 50 | 490,400 | |
| 51 | 513,640 | |
| 52 | 536,880 | |
| 53 | 560,120 | |
Damage/Recharge
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 10 | 3,600 |  1 Spell Scroll  1 Simple Chemical  1 Daemon Program  1 Heads Up Display
|
| 11 | 4,380 | |
| 12 | 5,160 | |
| 13 | 5,940 | |
| 14 | 6,720 | |
| 15 | 7,500 | |
| 16 | 12,900 | |
| 17 | 18,300 | |
| 18 | 23,700 | |
| 19 | 29,100 | |
| 20 | 34,500 | |
| 21 | 35,080 | |
| 22 | 35,660 | |
| 23 | 36,240 | |
| 24 | 36,820 | |
| 25 | 74,800 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 26 | 38,660 |  1 Alchemical Silver  1 Circuit Board 1 Scientific Law  1 Impervium
|
| 27 | 39,920 | |
| 28 | 41,180 | |
| 29 | 42,440 | |
| 30 | 43,700 | |
| 31 | 48,200 | |
| 32 | 52,700 | |
| 33 | 57,200 | |
| 34 | 61,700 | |
| 35 | 66,200 | |
| 36 | 73,920 | |
| 37 | 81,640 | |
| 38 | 89,360 | |
| 39 | 97,080 | |
| 40 | 209,600 | |
| Level | Crafting Requirements | |
|---|---|---|
| Influence or Infamy |
Invention Salvage | |
| 41 | 121,260 | 1 Demonic Threat Report  1 Hydraulic Piston  1 Titanium Shard  1 Synthetic Intelligence Unit
|
| 42 | 137,720 | |
| 43 | 154,180 | |
| 44 | 170,640 | |
| 45 | 187,100 | |
| 46 | 198,720 | |
| 47 | 210,340 | |
| 48 | 221,960 | |
| 49 | 233,580 | |
| 50 | 490,400 | |
| 51 | 513,640 | |
| 52 | 536,880 | |
| 53 | 560,120 | |
Comments
added in 2 numbers for sales on the Dam/Recharge table. >.> These are going to be monstrous... Just the page size is scarry.. It'll be impossible to try and fill in all the info @.@. On that note though, we need something other than 'None' to put in the sale cell since it gives the wrong impression. I'd leave the purchase at None, or N/A personally (leaning more to N/A since that conveys it better). --Sleepy Kitty 12:20, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
- Do not for a second think that this looks close to what I want to see. This page, right now, is way too big and has stuff that is useless. For example, the buy column is going away, because you simply can't, and the sell column is going away, since the selling prices are simply 100 * level (one line of text can say that well), and because they sell for so little, nobody is seriously going to be doing that. Most importantly, these tables are not going to stay the way they are. I'm expanding the templates so I can get the raw stuff, and I'll hack at it from that point. P.S. Saw you on Test in Talos' Wentworths (I was copying down the power effects for this set); you logged before I could /t you. ^_- --Lin Chiao Feng 12:39, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
I'll post in the forums when this thing is ready to be looked at. Until then, I'm not responsible for any holes burned in your eyes. ^_- --Lin Chiao Feng 12:48, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
- Okay, folks. First cut. Start the gnashing of teeth! ^_^ --Lin Chiao Feng 14:18, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
- I'm running at 1024 x 768. The 39-53 tables overshoot the page.. You could also probably use a {{clr}} between the second and third salvage tables.. it looks a bit odd to have one hanging in space. OH! and some of the salvage names are page wrapping inside the tables.. maybe an increase in cell size? --Sleepy Kitty 14:51, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
- Right now, the only width controls I have on the recipe tables are 32% width and float left. When you run 1024x768, do you have the window maximized, and if not, how wide (% of screen) is it? I need to know so I can reproduce what you're seeing (FYI, I'm at 1600x1200). For me, the salvage tables are 3 across; nothing's hanging in space (which is why I don't have {{clr}}'s between the tables, just after the tables). I'm trying to figure out how to lay this out with CSS so it looks good for everyone. I think I may have to nail table width down to an absolute amount, as much as that bothers me, but I want to hold that kind of fine-tuning off until I'm sure the whole layout's not going to change in a major way. And I think the devs put in "Volume of the Obsidian Librum" just to make things wrap. Maybe I should change it to "Black Library Book"? ^_- --Lin Chiao Feng 15:18, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
Okay, I made the font size smaller for Accuracy/Damage, just to see what it does. Is it too hard to read? --Lin Chiao Feng 15:45, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
- That is entirely too small, IMO. I don't even have much eye trouble and I have to squint and get closer to read it.--Martavius 18:26, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
I think I fixed most of the layout problems. The tables should move down properly (i.e. not hanging) when the window gets narrower. We don't have to go to smaller type, but I'm leaving it there for the moment just in case people like it better. --Lin Chiao Feng 16:11, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
>< ack! Accuracy/Damage is to small, and yes, I have the window maximized. The salvage tables other than acc/dam now wrap fine. though the % tables still run off the screen by a cell (rather, #53 is partially off). as for the book, yes, the devs probably did do it just to taunt us >.> --Sleepy Kitty 21:04, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
- the % tables still run off the screen by a cell -- yeah, I didn't fix that; the solution is 4 rows, and setting them to float like the recipe tables do so widescreen folks don't have huge gobs of white space. --Lin Chiao Feng 06:58, 23 April 2007 (PDT)
Its pretty monstrous in size, but a lot of good hard data there. One thing to think about would be combining the efefcts and costs into a single bigger table. Level - Craft Cost - Salavge - Effect1 - Efefct 2. That may get a little too cluncky looking with the few Quad enhacers around. Catwhoorg 04:46, 23 April 2007 (PDT)
- That would put things solidly in too much information territory. More importantly, it's not how the information is used. When someone comes to this page, they're probably asking, "What good is Air Burst?" So the first section answers that by detailing effects (and showing that improvement tapers off rapidly after level 26, and levels 51-53 are the same as 50), and the second section shows set bonuses. At this point, if they haven't decided to go look at something else, they're saying, "Cool, how do I make one?" On to Recipes. Once they've got the parts and made the things, if they come back, they'll be looking at effects again. So, since there's no realistic point in time that the player wants to see effect vs. price, the tables are separate. --Lin Chiao Feng 06:58, 23 April 2007 (PDT)
Table size reverted to normal. If someone wants smaller, they can set it in their browser. Any other comments before I push this to main? Yes, I'm going to break effects into 4 tables each to narrow them. --Lin Chiao Feng 06:58, 23 April 2007 (PDT)