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So it makes sense for some items to link to an actual item, and that item's page would have more info if needed. But do things like "Character Slot x1" "Character Slot x2" and "Character Slot x5" need their own links? Can't they just link either directly to [[Character Slot]] or a page like "Character Slot (Market Item)"? [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 20:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | So it makes sense for some items to link to an actual item, and that item's page would have more info if needed. But do things like "Character Slot x1" "Character Slot x2" and "Character Slot x5" need their own links? Can't they just link either directly to [[Character Slot]] or a page like "Character Slot (Market Item)"? [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 20:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
:One page per item type, regardless if there are multiple purchasing options in multiple amounts. I suggest the article be simply "Article Name" unless there's something there already, then "Article Name (Paragon Market)" instead. For instance, [[Character Slot]] and [[Character Slot (Paragon Market)]]. ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 21:01, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | :One page per item type, regardless if there are multiple purchasing options in multiple amounts. I suggest the article be simply "Article Name" unless there's something there already, then "Article Name (Paragon Market)" instead. For instance, [[Character Slot]] and <nowiki>[[Character Slot (Paragon Market)]]</nowiki>. ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 21:01, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
::But take the Character Slots: [[Character Slot (Paragon Market)]] is going to have little, if anything, other than a redirect or "See Also: [[Character Slot]]". So I guess I don't see the point, for items like Character Slot, where the Market item differs in no fundamental way from the "actual" item, to have their own separate Market pages. [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 21:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | ::But take the Character Slots: <nowiki>[[Character Slot (Paragon Market)]]</nowiki> is going to have little, if anything, other than a redirect or "See Also: [[Character Slot]]". So I guess I don't see the point, for items like Character Slot, where the Market item differs in no fundamental way from the "actual" item, to have their own separate Market pages. [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 21:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
::Unless it's just a place to put the pictures associated with items in the store. Those would probably clutter this page up a bit... [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 21:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | ::Unless it's just a place to put the pictures associated with items in the store. Those would probably clutter this page up a bit... [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 21:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
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I disagree with transcluding half of the [[Paragon Points]] article into this article. This article is about the Market, not about Paragon Points. We can refer people to ''that'' article for information on Paragon Points. If we want to include a table in ''this'' article giving a quick-reference to point-versus-money values (in conjunction with removing such data from the tables), I could see the value in that maybe -- but such a table wouldn't look like the one in Paragon Points. The perspective would be completely different, and transcluding PP's table into this article just seems weird. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 04:02, 21 January 2012 (UTC) (In particular, the stuff about the Reward Tokens is ''completely'' irrelevant to the Paragon Market article. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 04:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)) | I disagree with transcluding half of the [[Paragon Points]] article into this article. This article is about the Market, not about Paragon Points. We can refer people to ''that'' article for information on Paragon Points. If we want to include a table in ''this'' article giving a quick-reference to point-versus-money values (in conjunction with removing such data from the tables), I could see the value in that maybe -- but such a table wouldn't look like the one in Paragon Points. The perspective would be completely different, and transcluding PP's table into this article just seems weird. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 04:02, 21 January 2012 (UTC) (In particular, the stuff about the Reward Tokens is ''completely'' irrelevant to the Paragon Market article. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 04:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)) | ||
:*shrugs* Trying to kill two birds with one stone, being able to transclude a table so as to only ever need to update one article. Revert if you want. ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 21:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC) |
Revision as of 21:28, 21 January 2012
Item Links
So it makes sense for some items to link to an actual item, and that item's page would have more info if needed. But do things like "Character Slot x1" "Character Slot x2" and "Character Slot x5" need their own links? Can't they just link either directly to Character Slot or a page like "Character Slot (Market Item)"? Felderburg 20:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
- One page per item type, regardless if there are multiple purchasing options in multiple amounts. I suggest the article be simply "Article Name" unless there's something there already, then "Article Name (Paragon Market)" instead. For instance, Character Slot and [[Character Slot (Paragon Market)]]. ~ User:Aggelakis/Sig1 21:01, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
- But take the Character Slots: [[Character Slot (Paragon Market)]] is going to have little, if anything, other than a redirect or "See Also: Character Slot". So I guess I don't see the point, for items like Character Slot, where the Market item differs in no fundamental way from the "actual" item, to have their own separate Market pages. Felderburg 21:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
- Unless it's just a place to put the pictures associated with items in the store. Those would probably clutter this page up a bit... Felderburg 21:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Paragon Picks: Bundles
I'm glad no one's going to have to keep the featured and sale items up to date, but what about the bundles? Are they also temporary? It was my understanding they were a more permanent feature (then again, the fact that they're in the "picks" section gives weight to the transient argument). Felderburg 21:36, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
- All of the bundles show up in their appropriate category (e.g. the costume bundles are listed in the Costume Sets part of the Costumes section). The Bundles section just gathers up every bundle (which currently is only costumes). ~ User:Aggelakis/Sig1 21:54, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Item List
Chad Gulzow-Man of the forums put together an awesome spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/CompleteParagonMarketListing Forum post: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=271665
It has a list of current sale items; I've asked in the thread whether he plans on keeping it up to date. If so, we should ask if we can import the data here or something, because it would be nice to have the sales kept up to date. Felderburg 16:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- I linked it in External Links. I don't think we need to have the sales here. If he wants to track that volatile information, that's fine; unfortunately, a lot of volatile information eventually goes stale on PWiki, so I would rather we not even introduce it again. ~ User:Aggelakis/Sig1 17:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- Case in point, even keeping something simple like the Weekly Strike Target up to date takes effort on someone's part. :) --Eabrace 17:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
P.s., nice work to the people that actually are doing the nitty gritty and putting in every item. I put the categories on he page, but I haven't gotten the nerve to actually start putting in lists of items... so kudos to you guys. Felderburg 02:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Templates
I've created a pair of templates: PMarket Start and PMarket Row (and they seem to be closed properly by Table End which already exists). I've taken the liberty of updating the table headings. In particular, PMarket Start has an optional parameter for the table width, as you can see at the beginning of this article (previously the TOC would push the first table down). Default is 80% like the one that was copy/pasted all over this article. I didn't update the table rows because I was still working on the currency formatting, and now I've got that. Of note, my template row calculates the USD, Euro, and GBP from the PP, so you only have to enter that one number.
Item | PP | Date Added | Info | VIP | $ US | € EU | £ UK | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Some item | 400 | Cool item buy nao! | ?? | $5 | €3,98 | £3.2
Or an article that uses it extensively: Store-Bought Enhancements Any objections to using my template for the table rows now that it works? ScottyB 11:13, 2 October 2011 (UTC) Developer Clarifications
In a post to the Official Forums on June 24, 2011, Ghost Falcon clarified details about the Paragon Market and Paragon Points:
Paragon PointsI disagree with transcluding half of the Paragon Points article into this article. This article is about the Market, not about Paragon Points. We can refer people to that article for information on Paragon Points. If we want to include a table in this article giving a quick-reference to point-versus-money values (in conjunction with removing such data from the tables), I could see the value in that maybe -- but such a table wouldn't look like the one in Paragon Points. The perspective would be completely different, and transcluding PP's table into this article just seems weird. -- Sekoia 04:02, 21 January 2012 (UTC) (In particular, the stuff about the Reward Tokens is completely irrelevant to the Paragon Market article. -- Sekoia 04:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC))
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