Talk:Issues

Chapter names of books?

• The names of the various issues have traditionally been chapter names of famous books.

The only issue I know of that corresponds to a book or chapter name is Through the Looking Glass. Along Came a Spider was a movie with Morgan Freeman, I think, but otherwise, I think it's just a reference to the old Little Miss Muffet nursery rhyme. I've never heard of any of the others in relation to books or chapters.

Am I missing something? If not, we should probably remove this note since it was just the one the referred to a book.

--TonyV 14:32, 22 March 2006 (PST)

• "Through the looking glass" - Chapter 1 of Alice in Wonderland
• "A shadow of the past" - Chapter 2 of The Two Towers
• "A Council of War" - Chapter 12 of Treasure Island
• "The Colosseum" - Chapter 34 of The Count of Monte Cristo

All I've found so far. I will continue the search. - Snorii 14:55, 22 March 2006 (PST)

No worries, I just honestly didn't know. I thought they just made up cool-sounding names for each issue. --TonyV 16:37, 22 March 2006 (PST)

I sent a pm to Statesman asking for more info and this is his response.

"Yes. They're named after chapters in books. Can't say more than that...;-)" - Snorii 11:33, 23 March 2006 (PST)

Also confirmed by Manticore awhile ago. My search-fu on "Along came a spider" isn't coming up with much, thanks to the movie with Morgan Freeman and the book by James Patterson. User:StarGeek/sig 12:27, 23 March 2006 (PST)

Had anyone come up with the rest of them in the last year? Or at least Issues 8-10? TayJK 01:22, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Just a few searches tonight turned up the following possiblities (no guarantees that any of them are correct, though.)

Forest of Dread

Along Came a Spider

• Chapter 5 of The Science of Superheroes

Forest of Dread

To Protect and Serve

• Chapter 10 of Object-Oriented Programming with ActionScript 2.0 (Seriously, I'd laugh if that was it. )

Breakthrough

• Chapter 2 of A Fragile Relationship: The United States and China since 1972
• Chapter 6 of Agassi and Ecstasy: Turbulent Life of Andre Agassi
• Chapter 9 of 47 Down: The 1922 Argonaut Gold Mine Disaster
• Chapter 10 of The Bullet or the Bribe: Taking Down Colombia's Cali Drug Cartel
• Chapter 10 of On Armor
• Chapter 13 of Fredericksburg! Fredericksburg!

Invasion

• Chapter 2 of Nibiru and Wormwood: An E-Book About Alien Invasion
• Chapter 3 of Hostages to Freedom: The Fall of Rabaul
• Chapter 4 of Strike and return : Flying from Iwo Jima
• Chapter 21 of On War

(There's a list started on the Ingame References page, too.)

--Eabrace 04:08, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Issue 0

The article currently reads:

Issues are large game updates to the City of Heroes or City of Villains game. [...] There have been thirteen Issues so far, with two additional Issues having been announced.

Issue 0 - City of Heroes

I disagree with listing "Issue 0" here. The first sentence of the page defines issues as "large game updates"; the original release was not an update, it was the original release, as written in the Timeline section. Listing "Issue 0" is also inconsistent with saying "there have been thirteen issues so far"; if you count the original release as an issue, there have been 14 issues. I believe this can be a source of confusion. I'm going to remove it, but I'm opening this section in order to gather opinions. -- Leandro 19:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I think "Issue 0" deserves a reference, because it is a VERY common reference for the game release. I added it back in as a separate description. -- Agge (talk) 03:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

o.o the issue where what they decided to call the updates its true, but is we don't call the initial start of the game 0, how shall we note it? This isn't just about this page after all, we're missing the page that would correspond to i0 as well. @.@ issue 0 makes some amount of sense.. after all for CoH, all issue 6 was was 3 PVP zones, base salvage, and access to Villain side Base content (as it was restricted to ppl with CoV). Not having a page for the initial game build would mean we should apply the same policy to CoV.. --Sleepykitty 04:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

If it's a commonly used designation in the community, then I agree it merits inclusion but it should be clear that it's not an official designation. I added some text to clarify on the page, if anyone has a better phrasing, feel free to update it. I do agree with Leandro's main points that we don't list it definitively as Issue 0 because it's not a consistent name (as he explains) and it's not an official name. If we were to create an article for the initial release (which I think is sensible), "Initial Release" makes more sense as an article name than "Issue 0" to me. -- Sekoia 02:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Reverting the edit by Sekoia, as it is explained in the first section, and is used in quotes in the second section to reference the first (the other issues are not used in quotes). -- Agge (talk) 05:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

consolidate lists to table

Original Release	AKA: Issue 0	Wednesday, April 28, 2004
Issue 1	Through the Looking Glass	Tuesday, June 29th, 2004 (62 days later)
Issue 2	A Shadow of the Past	Thursday, September 16th, 2004 (79 days later)
Issue 3	A Council of War	Tuesday, January 4, 2005 (110 days later)
Issue 4	Colosseum	Wednesday, May 4, 2005 (120 days later)
Issue 5	Forest of Dread	Wednesday, August 31, 2005 (119 days later)
Issue 6	Along Came a Spider	Thursday, October 27, 2005 (57 days later) (jointly released with City of Villains)
Issue 7	Destiny Manifest	Tuesday, June 6, 2006 (222 days later)
Issue 8	To Protect and Serve	Tuesday, November 28th, 2006 (175 days later)
Issue 9	Breakthrough	Tuesday, May 1st, 2007 (154 days later)
Issue 10	Invasion	Tuesday, July 24th, 2007 (84 days later)
Issue 11	A Stitch in Time	Wednesday, November 28th, 2007 (123 days later)
Issue 12	Midnight Hour	Tuesday, May 20th, 2008 (174 days later)
Issue 13	Power and Responsibility	Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008 (196 days later)
Issue 14	Architect	Wednesday, April 8th, 2009 (127 days later) (jointly released with Architect Edition)
Issue 15	Anniversary	Monday, June 29th, 2009 (82 days later)
Issue 16	Power Spectrum	Tuesday, September 15th, 2009 (78 days later)
Issue 17	Dark Mirror	April, 2010 (announced)