Talk:5th Column Controversy

Overview

The release of Issue 3 brought some big changes to the game, including the removal of the 5th Column. They were replaced by the Council, a functionally similar group. Some believed that, though Cryptic claimed the coup was plot-motivated and had been planned for a long time, the change was due to the imminent release of the game in Europe.

The issue comes up on the forums every now and then. Here is a summary of the major points from each side.

o.o ack! the discussion content is gone.. anyway, for the italian one, just check wikipedia for a semi accurate background (less edit war than the german one anyway), just keep in mind WW2 was Germany, Italy, and Japan. Italy and Germany had very similar governments at the time and where close allies.

@.@ and about whats above, "claimed the coup was plot-motivated and had been planned for a long time," as far as I know, they never claimed this. When the change occurred, the reason given was due to complaints from the player base about nazis in the game. There where a few complaints, but at the same time, there have been many more about other topics in-game from mostly the same groups. Anyway, the coup was never plot orientated, ^^;; in fact, it messed up the whole plot for that issue and required a rewrite of a lot of Striga. @.@ its to bad to, I really wanted to see the constant battles between the 5th and Council that where originally suppose to happen. the ones with sky raiders just aren't as fun.--Sleepy Kitty 22:20, 12 November 2007 (EST)

??? What are you talking about? The devs have ALWAYS said it was part of the story. The reason given was certainly, 100% NOT that there were complaints about Nazis in the game. Where are you getting your information?--GreyDog 10:58, 13 November 2007 (EST)

The 5th Were Taken Out

Germany restricts or bans a number of games because of their Nazi imagery, notably the original Wolfenstein 3D.

Citations

I would like to see some footnotes linking to comments from the developers, if they are available. Similarly, I'd like to see a list, or link to a list, of games with Nazis that have been released in Europe, and particularly Germany.

I think Sleepykitty's comment on the forums about the german government approval process might be relevant to that as well. Researchable, at least. (Are there any footprints saying that NCSoft might have asked for such approval?) Mostly interested from an "inquiring minds" perspective.

Like the article. --Jumping Jack 13:32, 13 November 2007 (EST)