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=Combo Tables=
I used class="wikitable" to get the general table formatting (thin borders, grey backgrounds on headers). Comments? Suggestions? --[[User:Konoko|Konoko]] 02:00, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Looks much better like this.  I'm still questioning my use of colors in the tables.  At the very least they ought to be changed to a paler hue, like the blue in the nav bar.  Now to add a little more detail to the combo effects! -[[User:Pythe|Pythe]] 14:42, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

I'm thinking about combining the combo attack tables... I'll throw an idea at the bottom here, after I sketch it out here... -[[User:Pythe|Pythe]] 15:13, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
==Combination Attacks==

===Brute, Tanker, Scrapper===
{| class="wikitable" | Combination Attacks
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
!| Combo Name
!| Empower
!| Weaken
!| Attack Vitals
!| Sweep
|- bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
!| Effect
|| +Damage (Like Build Up)
|| Enemy -ToHit, -Def
|| Cone Minor Damage Over Time(Lethal)
||PBAoE Minor Damage(Lethal), Knockdown
|- 
!| Open
|| [[Image:DualBlades_LightOpening.png|22px]] Nimble Slash
|| [[Image:DualBlades_LightOpening.png|22px]] Nimble Slash
|| [[Image:DualBlades_ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades_HighLow.png|22px]] One Thousand Cuts
|- 
!| Continue
|| [[Image:DualBlades_ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades_ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades_Special1.png|22px]] Vengeful Slice
|| [[Image:DualBlades_ModerateOpening.png|22px]] Power Slice
|- 
!| Finish<!-- Him!! -->
|| [[Image:DualBlades_FollowUp.png|22px]] Blinding Feint
|| [[Image:DualBlades_AoEBridge.png|22px]] Typhoon's Edge
|| [[Image:DualBlades_Special2.png|22px]] Sweeping Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades_HighLow.png|22px]] Typhoon's Edge
|}

===Stalker===
{| class="wikitable" | Combination Attacks
|- 
!| Combo Name
!| Empower
!| Weaken
!| Attack Vitals
!| Sweep
|- 
!| Effect
|| +Damage (Like Build Up)
|| Enemy -ToHit, -Def
|| Cone Minor Damage Over Time(Lethal)
||PBAoE Minor Damage(Lethal), Knockdown
|- 
!| Open
|| [[Image:DualBlades_BuildUp.png|22px]] Build Up
|| [[Image:DualBlades_Special2.png|22px]] Sweeping Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades_ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades_BuildUp.png|22px]] Build Up
|- 
!| Continue
|| [[Image:DualBlades_AssassinBlades.png|22px]] Assassin's Blades
|| [[Image:DualBlades_ModerateOpening.png|22px]] Power Slice
|| [[Image:DualBlades_LightOpening.png|22px]] Nimble Slash
|| [[Image:DualBlades_AssassinBlades.png|22px]] Assassin's Blades
|- 
!| Finish
|| [[Image:DualBlades_Placate.png|22px]] Placate
|| [[Image:DualBlades_HighLow.png|22px]] One Thousand Cuts
|| [[Image:DualBlades_Special1.png|22px]] Vengeful Slice
|| [[Image:DualBlades_ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Slice
|}

==Combined Combo Table==
This seems reasonable, if hard to read.  Perhaps seperate each combo into its own table? Or color each main rows alternately? -[[User:Pythe|Pythe]]

Still hard to read with colors.  Comments? -[[User:Pythe|Pythe]]
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Combo Name
! rowspan="2" | Effect
! colspan="2" | Attacks
|-
!| [[Image:Archetypeicon tanker.png|22px]][[Image:Archetypeicon scrapper.png|22px]][[Image:V archetypeicon brute.png|22px]]
!| [[Image:V archetypeicon stalker.png|22px]]
|- bgcolor="#E0FFFF"
| rowspan="3" | Empower
| rowspan="3" | +Damage
|| [[Image:DualBlades LightOpening.png|22px]] Nimble Slash
|| [[Image:DualBlades BuildUp.png|22px]] Build Up
|- bgcolor="#E0FFFF"
|| [[Image:DualBlades ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades AssassinBlades.png|22px]] Assassin's Blades
|- bgcolor="#E0FFFF"
|| [[Image:DualBlades FollowUp.png|22px]] Blinding Feint
|| [[Image:DualBlades Placate.png|22px]] Placate
|-
| rowspan="3" | Weaken
| rowspan="3"| Foe -ToHit, -Def
|| [[Image:DualBlades LightOpening.png|22px]] Nimble Slash
|| [[Image:DualBlades Special2.png|22px]] Sweeping Strike
|-
|| [[Image:DualBlades ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades ModerateOpening.png|22px]] Power Slice
|-
|| [[Image:DualBlades AoEBridge.png|22px]] Typhoon's Edge
|| [[Image:DualBlades HighLow.png|22px]] One Thousand Cuts
|- bgcolor="#E0FFFF"
| rowspan="3" | Attack Vitals
| rowspan="3" | Cone Minor Damage over Time(Lethal)
|| [[Image:DualBlades ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|- bgcolor="#E0FFFF"
|| [[Image:DualBlades Special1.png|22px]] Vengeful Slice
|| [[Image:DualBlades LightOpening.png|22px]] Nimble Slice
|- bgcolor="#E0FFFF"
|| [[Image:DualBlades Special2.png|22px]] Sweeping Strike
|| [[Image:DualBlades Special1.png|22px]] Vengeful Slice
|-
| rowspan="3" | Sweep
| rowspan="3" | PBAoE Damage(Lethal), Knockdown
|| [[Image:DualBlades HighLow.png|22px]] One Thousand Cuts
|| [[Image:DualBlades BuildUp.png|22px]] Build Up
|-
|| [[Image:DualBlades ModerateOpening.png|22px]] Power Slice
|| [[Image:DualBlades AssassinBlades.png|22px]] Assassin's Blades
|-
|| [[Image:DualBlades AoEBridge.png|22px]] Typhoon's Edge
|| [[Image:DualBlades ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
|}
==GreyDog's out-of-his-gourd idea==
This is a tricky concept to get across. Personally, I find the Power Name/Icon confusing, in isolation. They only way I really get a sense of a power is seeing it in the context of the whole powerset. So, an ideal chart for me would look something like this... --Greydog
{| class="wikitable"
|-
||Powers
||Weaken
||Empower
||Attack Vitals
||Sweep
|-
||[[Image:DualBlades LightOpening.png|22px]] Nimble Slash
||1
||1
||
||
|-
||[[Image:DualBlades ModerateOpening.png|22px]] Power Slice
||
||
||
||2
|-
||[[Image:DualBlades ModerateBridge.png|22px]] Ablating Strike
||2
||2
||1
||
|-
||[[Image:DualBlades AoEBridge.png|22px]] Typhoon's Edge
||3
||
||
||3
|-
||[[Image:DualBlades FollowUp.png|22px]] Blinding Feint
||
||3
||
||
|-
||Confront
||
||
||
||
|-
||[[Image:DualBlades Special1.png|22px]] Vengeful Slice
||
||
||2
||
|-
||[[Image:DualBlades Special2.png|22px]] Sweeping Strike
||
||
||3
||
|-
|| [[Image:DualBlades HighLow.png|22px]] One Thousand Cuts
||
||
||
||1
|}
I could be out of my gourd, however. Feel free to ignore my comment if I'm in the minority.--[[User:GreyDog|GreyDog]] 17:19, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
:No no no, nothing is ignored if it gives someone a ridiculously brilliant idea. Observe: The Power Table section is supposed to give a concise yet meaningful list of powers. Your table could be tacked on to the end of each power table. --[[User:Konoko|Konoko]] 20:02, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

===Scrapper===
{{Powers_LevelComboHeader}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_LightOpening.png|Power=Nimble Slash|Level=1|Effect=Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal).  |Extra=Begins Empower and Weaken combos|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_ModerateOpening.png|Power=Power Slice|Level=1|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal).|Extra= Needed for Sweep combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_ModerateBridge.png|Power=Ablating Strike|Level=2|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense.|Extra= Needed for Empower and Weaken combos, begins Attack Vitals combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_AoEBridge.png|Power=Typhoon's Edge|Level=6|Effect=Point Blank Area of Effect Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal).|Extra= Finishes Weaken and Sweep combos|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_FollowUp.png|Power=Blinding Feint|Level=8|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal) Self +Damage +Accuracy.|Extra= Finishes Empower combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_Taunt.png|Power=Confront|Level=12|Effect=Ranged, Foe Taunt|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_Special1.png|Power=Vengeful Slice|Level=18|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal), Foe Knockdown.|Extra= Needed for Attack Vitals combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_Special2.png|Power=Sweeping Strike|Level=26|Effect=Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).|Extra= Finishes Attack Vitals combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_HighLow.png|Power=One Thousand Cuts|Level=32|Effect=Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).|Extra= Begins Sweep combo|Border=0}}
{{Powers_Footer}}